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Catalog Number 2005.031.0001
Object Name Tape, Cassette
Scope & Content Interviewed by Steve Williams.

Amelia Dinucci and Carmela Scott
-emigrated from Italy when she was ten years old. "Came in January. I remember Christmas time with my cousins in Brooklyn."

-father was already here a year earlier. "My mother came from Pontelisa, a small town, But my father came with just a little way from what was the name Spadanisa, maybe 3 or 4 miles maybe 5 I don't know."
-had 2 brothers "Pardon me, I had three brothers, one died in the United States".

Her father
"He decided to stay here. Unintelligible. The first thing he did was buy a house to live in." (in Granville).
"And then he took me first to Granville. My mother had to stay there with my two brothers because one was in the hospital. When I came to Granville, my cousin, they were related to my mother. That's where I stayed until my father came and I cried and cried. I would have liked to stay in Brooklyn. I liked the city. I still like the city. When I was 17 or 18, I went to Brooklyn and stayed there and worked there. I loved the city."

Husband
"He lived right next door. His mother was good friends with my mother. . . . He used to follow me everywhere. They used to tell me what a good boy he was, which was true. He was a good boy. A good man. Finally, I said, ok. I was over thirty."

You spent a lot of time in Brooklyn?
"Oh yes I did. I loved it there! After I got married, I went back to visit but my husband was a country boy. He didn't like the city. He liked Whitehall." Discussion about Whitehall football games.

Did Benny (husband) work in the quarries?
"Sometimes, just for a few weeks. He didn't like it."

Father in slate business?
"My father and my brothers. The three of them worked in the quarries. They didn't have an education. They got a little bit of money each week, just 5 dollars or so."

Did you speak in Italian?
"Yes, I did better when I was in school in Italy. Not enough Italians in Granville."

Where did the Italians live in Granville?
"They were spread out."

Italian celebrations?
"August 15, all the Italians celebrated."

Carmella: "It was a religious celebration, a church holiday, the ascension of the blessed Virgin Mary."

"The Italian flag. It was beautiful. A parade. Fireworks."

"I used to love to walk all the time. I still do. If I could do it."

Learning English:
"My brother Joe was in school when I went. He used to explain to me in Italian what they were talking about in school. The teacher would put on the word on the blackboard but Joe would help me a little bit. I learned fast . . . because I was interested."

Brooklyn:
"When I was 17 or 18, I went back to Brooklyn. Worked in a dress shop. I broke my mother's heart because she wanted me to leave. I stayed for about a year and came home. My husband was in the service. My mother and his mother lived next door and they wanted us to be together . . . I started being friendly with him. He was a good husband. Let me tell you."

Did you go to St. Mary's Church in Granville?
"Yes. Most of the Italians went there."

Do you remember stores? or quarries?
"Slate. I know there was living in Granville, Tatkos and O'Briens. My father--he punched--whatever you call it."

Cooking?
"My mother would bring over food. My sister in law cooked. And she died. My husband cooked then. I never had to cook. I used to love to clean house but I never learned how to cook. My mother did all my cooking and all my washing. My husband called me a spoiled brat. That's just how I was brought up."

Relaxation?
"What did they do? I'll tell ya! Three or four men used to come over and play cards. Play baseball. Walk with my girlfriends. On Sundays. Or to the movies. My mom didn't do it. She just stayed home all the time. Oh we used to be after the boys. A bunch of the Slavs used to go there and look for boys."

Brothers?
"My two brothers? They both worked in the quarries. One of my brothers got a job, they moved, one of my brothers married a Communist in Italy. He was stationed in Rome, Italy. She said, 'If you don't marry me, I'll have the Communists kill you.' She married him and they lived in New Jersey for a long time and my brother got a job at the post office as a whatever he did, cleaning, at the post office there. She was a pretty good wife. She liked my father alright but didn't like my mother. She was off. About a year ago, I heard she is in a nursing home in New Jersey. She's still alive I guess. I don't know why my brother ever chose her. We believed her."

Your brother was in World War II, stationed in Italy and stayed there after the War?
"Yes, he had to stay in the service for a while before he was discharged."

Go back to Italy?
"No I never did. Oh wait a minute. No, never went back."
Creator William, Stephen T.
Title Amelia Dinucci, Oral History